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Perspective on 'bandwagoners' ...
August 23, 2008

I went back a few pages or so, to try to catch up in my blog reading and I found a gem from Jester, "Hey bring it Bandwagoners!!" If you haven't read it, you should. It is a GREAT blog!

After I read it, I realized there had been a few down votes and his blog was down to 50 some percent. I don't know if there is just some people on here that just dont like him or if possibly there are people taking offense to being called "bandwagoineers". If the later is the case, please consider this.

I'm taking some liberties here, Jester, so if I mischaracerize you (or THe DON) please let me know ( I know you will !LOL)

Here's the way I view "bandwagoners". They're new fans who WON'T listen to their elders (in this case, elder refers to a fan-elder not necessarily an age-elder). At any rate, what we have been thru (and some even more than me) is astounding! It isn't something you can define on paper or look up in a dictionary. It isn't something that can be written from one fan to another one one day and then that 2nd fans knows it the second day. It isn't even an experience that can fully be comprehended, only appreciated...and appreciated over a very long time. It doesn't happen overnight. It's a process.

It happens over time. It happenes over conversations where the 'elder'  tells the newer about the history of the game, the players, thru his own eyes. Thru the eyes of someone who was there. Giving his own, unigue perspective of someone who was on top of the world one moment and torn, the next. Thru the eyes and experiences of someone who truly had their heart broken, deeply, only to leave building blocks of memories of the tears and of the heartache for 'next year'. Imparting wisdom that cannot be gotten from the stats. Imparting the wisdom that will sustain you through the bad times so you are around for the best times.

The 'bandwagoner' fans DON'T listen to all these stories! It is extremly frustrating to give of yourself, only to find that the newer fan didn't stay around long enough to get his 1st Fenway Frank because he couldnt stand the loss..because he/she didn't listen while his/her elders were doing them a favor.

If you are a newer fan but DO listen to stories from elders, like being around a perverbial campfire, then I ASSURE you, it isn't YOU he is talking about. It is FOR you, that he speaks. Let them know you have respect for what they are telling you. And if they happen to say something that may offend you, you may want to cut them some slack. Most likely, they will help you even more.

The love of a 'Jester' or a 'Don' for that matter, is neverending to another fan..one who truly 'wants' to know about the Sox and we would be a sad sad  world if we didn't have people like that around..


-Scoobs-RSR
 

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Some people will never understand the heartache that people went through, living there ENTIRE LIFE with out seeing a World Championship. It is a shame we have so many 'pink hats' that cant tell you who the manager was before Grady Little. Hell half of them just learned something when I said Grady's name. Its a real shame that we are going to have to start losing to see who the true fans are. But dont you worry Scoobs, Fenway will ALWAYS sell out! ...View More

08/24/2008 12:27 AM
CaliGrow..
Oh, of that, my friend, I have no doubt. And it's ok if someone doesn't know who the manager was b4 Grady Little..so they're the ones you need to teach right? (if they'll listen, I mean..LOL)
08/24/2008 12:31 AM
Scoobs-RSR
Very good. Very true!!!
08/24/2008 12:41 AM
Just Jed..
(online now)*
Grady Litte????? LOL!!! The wheat will be seperated from the chaff.
08/24/2008 12:43 AM
Southsta..
Wonderful post scoobs ty
08/24/2008 1:30 AM
RED SOX ..
Wonderful post scoobs ty
08/24/2008 1:30 AM
RED SOX ..
Wonderful post scoobs ty
08/24/2008 1:30 AM
RED SOX ..
Thanks Scoobs. You have a fine perspective on things that are REAL.
08/24/2008 1:32 AM
~ Psycho..
AWESOME POST SCOOBS! AND CALI....SO TRUE YOU ARE IN YOUR COMMENTS.....ESPECIALLY ABOUT THE FENS SELLING OUT! IVE MET PEOPLE WHO THINK THERE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SEATS ON THE MONSTER "NO, THEY JUST PUT MORE UP THERE" THEY SAY! HAHAHAHA.....WHEN ANY TEAM STARTS DOING GOOD, THEY GET LOTS OF NEW FANS, OR FANS OF OLD THAT LOST TOUCH FOR A WHILE! BUT "NONE" HAVE GROWN TO THE SIZE OF RED SOX NATION! IT JUST SHOWS WHAT A SPECIAL TEAM WE HAVE! WE ARE RICH IN HISTORY AND I LEARN NEW THINGS FROM FANS ALL THE TIME.....EVEN BEING A FAN ALL MY LIFE, I HAVE STILL LEARNED SOME THINGS THAT BEFORE I DIDNT KNOW! I LOOK DOWN ON NO FAN WHO IS TRULY INTO THE TEAM BECAUSE OF THE TEAM AND ITS HISTORY! BUT THOSE WHO ARE HERE NOW FOR THE GOOD, AND LEAVE FOR THE BAD.......I SAY THEY DONT REALLY MATTER....THOSE ARE THE TRUE BANDWAGONEERS! ONCE YOU TRULY LOVE SOMEONE OR SOMETHING, THAT LOVE IS THERE FOREVER! IF THAT LOVE GOES AWAY BECAUSE OF BAD TIMES OR WHATEVER .....THEN THE LOVE WAS NEVER REALLY TRUE, BUT A PASSING FANCY! GREAT POST SCOOBS AND THANKS FOR LETTING ME RAMBLE! LGRS!!!!! ^5 ...View More

08/24/2008 2:07 AM
IRISH WH..
At least someone,outside of us 'elders' gets it around here...thanks Scoobs for trying to edumacate the 'pinkhats';I sincerely hope it helps...but I'm not holding my breath over it...
08/24/2008 7:17 AM
MIKEYMOM..
Irish, I like what you say about true love. Whether it is a team or someone, love is through good or bad. This 'Pink' hat thing though reminds me of going on a job interview and they ask what experience you have. Well, at some point, we all have had no experience for that job. Those are the so-called 'Pink' hats. They are sitting across from us looking to get hired, and get some experience. You have to start somewhere, we all did. And who better to groom them than someone who has experience. ...View More

08/24/2008 7:23 AM
ruff13
Superbly put Scoobs! Nice points Ruff. Still, the correct term for non committed fans is fairweather. Pink Hat doesn't work. My Mom has a Pink hat and she's been with Dad through all the lean years and agonizing times with the Sox. Pink also supports fighting breast cancer-and I certainly support breasts!!! LMAO! I love sharing Sox history with newer fans, my nephews, godson, and others. Like Ruff said, they have to start somewhere, as long as they are respectful and sincere, I love to share with them! Again, nice job Scoobs, THANKS! Much Respect! ...View More

08/24/2008 11:21 AM
~Joe Sox..
Umm Scoobs if I may use your space here to make a statement. As I get older I find myself becoming more like my male elders, developing an Old Man type of hard shell. But deep inside I do have a heart. BUT the thing that annoys me to NO END is a Newbie talking down to me like I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm willing to share my experiences and knowledge to those who will listen, But to be dis-respected really pisses me off. Sorry to all but a Grouch on the Couch I can be. 1967 the Dream Year. LET'S GO SOX !! ...View More

08/24/2008 5:08 PM
~ Psycho..
I know exACTly what you mean Psycho, you've EARNED more respect for what you've been thru, because you went thru it and DIDN'T give up! YOU SUFFERRED, year after year after year...and STILL, you came back to cheer on your team. Newer fans need to appreciate that and understand that although you may be a grouch, there's a reason. If they sit tight long enough, they just might find out what it is and find a new friend while they're at it. I think I got that perspective from listening to all the heartache in my own household, while growing up. It really becamse crystal clear about the time of the 'dream team'. Watching my brothers and father go thru what they went thru..."I" was exhausted just watching, when all along, this was becoming MY dream too. Well, now I don't live so close to them all ..my dad didn't even get to see the WS win but all his grief wasn't for naught..and neither mine won't be either. ...View More

08/24/2008 5:29 PM
Scoobs-RSR
great blog and excellent responses everyone....true fans are always willing to learn as much as they can and also pass that on to others also
08/24/2008 5:49 PM
BOHICA....
I would upvote ya a few times but they wont let me
08/24/2008 5:49 PM
BOHICA....
Great blog Scoobs! Very well done!
08/24/2008 7:05 PM
GOBBLE G..
great blog scoobs thank you
08/24/2008 11:23 PM
Darkhalf..
Very well put!
08/25/2008 8:29 AM
Bosoxblo..

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